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9 years 3 months ago #277666 by remol
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How about \"Mr Blobby at the Cameroons?\"


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9 years 3 months ago #277672 by stepper
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I wonder if arnie and remol would be so sneering if they had been denied contact with their children? (if indeed they have children).

I wish the best of luck to Matt in his endeavours to obtain equal rights for both parents when marriages break down.


As a grandmother who did lose touch with her grandchildren for a while, I know how painful it is when one parent denies contact to the other parent even when a Court order is in place.

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9 years 3 months ago #277682 by WhiteRose
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Hi Stepper,

Its an awful situation when one parent denies contact to the other parent.

Its also not recognised in the courts that one parent can poison or denigrate the other causing Parental Alienation, where the child(ren) actually state they do not want to see the other parent, and the parent doing the denigration can rightly say - its not them stopping the contact ...........

The blockers and alienators (possibly) have motives to punish the other parent, they do not acknowledge is that the lack of contact with the other parent is actually damaging the child(ren)

Shame

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9 years 3 months ago #277683 by Fiona
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Hold on a moment, the courts do recognise that children can be alienated but that can be down to the behaviour of either parent or both, and even the children themselves. What the courts don't recognise (and are never likely to) is some sort of mental illness that PAS theory claims.

Unfortunately for children there are some parents on both sides that use children as a weapon against the other parent and Arnie is spot on, it isn't about gender.

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9 years 3 months ago #277686 by WhiteRose
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Ahhhhhh - thanks for that Fiona - It is PAS they do not recognise.

Also - my post was not gender biased - as you say Arnie is right!

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9 years 3 months ago #277711 by Forseti
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Oh, what a surprise! If there is one thing you can always rely on whenever Fathers 4 Justice get a bit of publicity it's that there will always be little men like Arnie around to pour their particular brand of vitriol on it.

i want change as bad as he claims without wanting any of the glory.


Small danger of that, Arnie!

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9 years 3 months ago #277721 by Fiona
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Actually Matt O'Connor received a bit of publicity on Radio Scotland's \"Call Kaye\" programme this morning. Unfortunately there was some confusion between England and Scotland but there are contributions from Ian Maxwell (FnF Scotland), agony aunt Joan Burnie, Erin Pizzey, and Morag Driscoll (Scottish Child Law Centre) so it's well worth a listen.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00r3zl7




PS WhiteRose wrote:

Ahhhhhh - thanks for that Fiona - It is PAS they do not recognise.


That's the problem with the term \"Parental Alienation,\" it is that it 's often used synonymously with \"Parental Alienation Syndrome.\" A syndrome is list of symptoms used to diagnose an illness or medical disorder and you would need expert medical evidence of PAS. No professional association recognises PAS as a relevant medical syndrome or mental disorder and it's unlikely they ever will.

The courts will recognise alienation/extreme rejection/implacable hostility as a child's response to parental conflict if it is backed by evidence from an independent expert witness. Many factors contribute to the problem but there is no presumption of a deliberate campaign of denigration by one parent.

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