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9 years 3 months ago #277800 by hawaythelads
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Dust anyone Dust??

David Cameron just absolutely trashed divorced men who are fathers.
His statement on fathers day was appalling.
People won't take the time to differentiate why a blokes divorced.
He just told the whole nation stigmatise divorced fathers.
The prime minister says shun divorced fathers as if they are drink drivers.FFS on father's day!!If that doesn't say how society is being told to think and behave on gender bias I don't know what does.
It's all gender biased the women if they want the kids get to keep them in the real world.Even if the law is written that is not the case. When it's applied that is what happens.
I'm starting a new campaign Haway for King and I will not stop eating lard sandwiches until that happens.:blink:

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9 years 3 months ago #277818 by Forseti
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Arnie Saccnuson wrote:

Where f4j could make a positive contribution is counselling their members in their own personal culpability in the situation they find themselves in rather than providing a simplistic excuse for a VERY difficult problem.


Well at least we now know where you are coming from, Arnie. If you think our explanation is simplistic, I would direct you to the 1,000 page submission we made to the Family Justice Review (I'd love to read your submission some time). You are correct that F4J is not a huge organisation, though your estimate is very inaccurate, but you would need to add all those parents who join other organisations and support groups - including this one - if your view that parents who lose contact with their children following family breakdown only have themselves to blame were the correct one.

Personally I find that view extremely offensive and pathetically ignorant. I find it very hard to understand what you are doing on a forum like this, though you have every right to be here. Most of us here try to give support and hope to others in similar situations, or at least a realistic idea of what to expect in court. Your interest seems to be more of a morbid curiosity in others' suffering.

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9 years 3 months ago #277841 by Arnie Saccnuson
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my estimate was based upon the activity f4j generate on youtube, facebook, and active forums such as these and i was being generous

if you dont like my opinion don't read it or engage in it but spare me the smearing undertones of your last post. I have consistently stated on these forums and elsewhere that the problems in the family courts are not a gender issue and by virtue of your brand name and your spokesmen and declared agenda you are determined to make it a gender issue. That is the simplistic message of fathers 4 justice.

The world has changed, the internet changed it forever and you best wake up to that fact.

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9 years 3 months ago #277963 by Arnie Saccnuson
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He's finished

#hunger4justice


what good did that do for reform of divorce and child custody laws in the UK?

come to that name one improvement or advance that can be attributed to F4j in the last ten years.

Give it up Matt the brand is fuked its not a gender issue

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9 years 3 months ago #278917 by stepper
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Arnie Saccnuson wrote:

He's finished

#hunger4justice




What makes you think that?


The campaign has barely begun.


Watch and learn arnie ;)

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9 years 3 months ago #278919 by sillywoman
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Sorry, I carried my children for over 9 months and then gave birth to them and fed them. No father would ever take them away from me (obviously unless I was unfit through alcoholism, or the like).

Some fathers leave their wives saying that they are divorcing their wife and not their children???????? Especially, if they are leaving for another woman, how does the mother of his children feel? Of course by divorcing the mother, the father is divorcing the children and vice versa.

I do not believe that a father should ever have custody of a child unless the mother specifically wants this to happen or she has some health issue which does not enable her, even with support, to be able to care for the child full time.

My ex husband has turned into a bitter horrible man, although he is living with another woman. He has seen only one of our children once this year and that meeting took place with him constantly \"slagging\" me off, even though our daughter (17 at the time) asked him to stop doing this. She has not seen him since, nor does she want to.

Sometimes, it is better for all concerned if children do not have contact with the absent parent, sorry, it just is.

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9 years 3 months ago #278932 by Justaparent
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Your post staggers me.

My son lives with me it's what he wants, my daughter does 50-50 it's what she wants.

I think you're living in the 1950's

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