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Family Justice Review Final Report

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02 Nov 11 #295891 by WhiteRose
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An utter disgrace. It seems Norgrave's recommendations are based on the concept of saving the courts time and money because with a presumption of equality, more litigation will be the end result as Fathers try to redress the inequality of residence etc. I think we should collectively voice our outrage and protest to the highest authority in the land (not Cameron).


Was just reading through this and you've taken the words out of my mouth Phoenix :(:angry:

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02 Nov 11 #295901 by supersub
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It's the kids that will suffer as well as we fathers. The only winners are mothers who do not really think through what the kids need - both parents.
Sadly my kids had one of them and refused to give me similar access to the kids even though I moved out to a flat 5 minutes away and work from home and I had asked (begged) for equal access. Even my solicitor said don't bother with court in the end as they will just favour the mother by default.
So my two boys are missing their male role model for most of their teen years. A good idea? No.
And now we are missing the opportunity to reduce the total sexism that exists in divorces... I'm gutted.

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02 Nov 11 #295907 by Deedum
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Well I certainly don't feel like a winner. When my ex husband left, I did not choose to be the resident parent - I had that forced upon me. The fact that he then moved 20 miles away so he could not see his son so much was also not my choosing.

I don't see how any court could enforce 50/50 parenting. I am sure there are many mothers like me who would like the father to be forced to do 50% of the parenting and take the pressure off us.

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02 Nov 11 #295911 by stepper
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I don't think parents should be forced to adhere to 50/50 shared residence. That should be the default in the event of a split or divorce.

It should then be up to both parents to discuss together the best arrangements to suit both them and their children.

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02 Nov 11 #295919 by WhiteRose
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Well I certainly don't feel like a winner. When my ex husband left, I did not choose to be the resident parent - I had that forced upon me. The fact that he then moved 20 miles away so he could not see his son so much was also not my choosing.

I don't see how any court could enforce 50/50 parenting. I am sure there are many mothers like me who would like the father to be forced to do 50% of the parenting and take the pressure off us.


Hi Deedum - I do sympathise with your situation. However in situations where the NRP (usually the Father) is limited/restricted/denied access/contact with their children, there should be legal support/recourse to enforce it. The message here is that Fathers are not important (and its too bothersome and costly to do anything about it) :angry:

In your situation its not the law at fault - its your ex. No-one can make someone be a good Dad (or Mum), but the fact that some parents are denied a chance to be in their kids lives can and should be addressed.

It is a shame your ex feels 20 miles away is too far for contact :angry:I know fathers on here who would walk on hot coals for 20 miles to see their child(ren)

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03 Nov 11 #295964 by Fiona
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The final report is now available here;

www.familylaw.co.uk/system/uploads/attac...ilyJusticeReview.pdf

I'll just make two points before I finish reading the report. First of all the article "Fathers denied a right to see children" is sensationalist journalism and incorrect. Parental responsibility gives parents equal responsibility and rights to carry out those responsibilities including having the child live with them and contact.

Secondly, picking up on Stepper's point about the inequalities of residence, the report states that to remove the sense of winning that residence and contact orders should no longer be awarded in private cases when the parents have PR and in the future disagreements over parenting time should be resolved by means of specific issue orders.

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04 Nov 11 #296142 by dukey
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The report basically suggests that to put mum and dad on an equal footing would cost litigants more money the tax man more and take longer than it does now.

The report suggests that right now proceedings can often take a year or more, but offers no reason why it takes so long, the simple answer is the time it takes for reports and the time it takes to get hearings, simple there are too few experienced judges and courts are under undue financial pressure.

The report says they aim to cut down the time it takes to maybe six months, how will that happen you can wait almost six months for a single hearing in some parts of the country right now.

From what i can see the only real action that is to be taken is to withdraw public funding, so no more legal aid, will this speed up the process? nope it will make it all so much worse, do solicitors think it will help no, do the judges no, does anyone, well not many, mainly a small number who`s ex`s abuse the legal aid system.

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