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22 Apr 12 #325727 by Annie1000
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Hi hoping for more valuable advice please. I don''t know how I could have managed as a self rep without the people on this site!
I am self repping at up coming final hearing and have a number of questions which I would be very grateful for an answer to.
1. What is a court bundle, Do I need to provide one for the hearing?
2.I would like to show the many solicitors letters in which grandparents contradicted themselves, for example in first letter they list their many assets, large houses and extensive lands etc, and after they were directed to visit my daughter they pleaded poverty and said they could not afford the travel costs on a monthly basis.How do i do this please?
3. I have submitted a statement as ordered by the court. Cafass told me I must forward a copy to other side but they are stalling position statement until CAFCASS report is out.I feel them knowing what i have put in my position statement will put me at even more of a disadvantage, as they can then tailor theirs to what I have said.
4. I am terrified that I will let my daughter down by saying or doing the wrong thing.
Woulod be very grateful for any advice.
Thanks in advance.

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24 Apr 12 #326316 by jonathancj
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Is there a solicitor on the other side? Is so, it''s their obligation to prepare the bundle. There''s a practice direction which explains what goes in a trial bundle. Try for it. If you can''t find it, let me know and I''ll see of I can find it for you.

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24 Apr 12 #326321 by Joe2020
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Good luck Anne.

You''re a little in front of me at the mo.
Had a Directions hearing yesterday and now am told have a 4 hour hearing in 4/5 moths(think its a final hearing,cross examinations etc involved apparently)and am self repping like you.

Totally haven''t got a clue about what to do.No idea whatsoever what even a court bundle is either so plenty of research needed.

My only advantage is the ex won;t be or shouldnt be having a solicitor either.

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24 Apr 12 #326332 by Emma8485
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Hi Annie, we recently went through the final hearing process, the other sides solicitor should have been directed to complete this. What we got was an index, so kind of like a list that shows whats included, for example

1.1 - C100 application dated 13th May 2011 made by father

2.1 Statement of Respondent Mother dated 3rd August 2011

and so on, plus it listed every set of Directions, all the statements, so you can let them know if anything is missing, but you dont get the actual bundle itself until the day.

In our case, my partner had to submit a statement in response to the Cafcass report, so they were only exchanged shortly before the hearing.

Hope this helps xx

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24 Apr 12 #326341 by Fiona
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The practice direction for court bundles is available here;

www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rule...rections/pd_part_27a

Check the Directions from the last hearing. If I remember correctly there is no solicitor representing the other side in this case so the applicant should prepare the bundle. You need to send any documents to them for inclusion in the bundle.

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24 Apr 12 #326357 by Joe2020
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Fiona what happens where an applicant acting as a LIP does not know how to proceed alone in a final hearing?

Should they write to the Judge and inform them so and give up any hope of increasing contact?

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24 Apr 12 #326362 by Annie1000
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Thank you Jonathon and Fiona. Good luck to Emma and Joe with your cases.
The Directions info is very helpful. Other side gets legal aid, so I suppose it is up to them.
Cafcass report has arrived and supports daughters letter to the court in its recommendations which is wonderful.
The report has been made without Grandmother speaking to Cafcass officer,as they could not get hold of her. She has not completed a statement either. I suspect she will now delay proceedings in any way she can as things have not gone her way and i made the mistake of telling judge that daughter wants closure which she does.
I wonder if she will succeed in dragging this on and on by not cooperating?
Thanks again for information.

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