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24 Apr 12 #326375 by Emma8485
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Annie if she hasnt submitted a statement for the final hearing and couldnt make herself available to Cafcass then I am not certain that she has the power to stop things.

Take a look at my recent post - Final hearing is over (I am not clever enough to link to it) my partner had a Cafcass report that supported him, and his daughter had been interviewed, and without saying too much it supported what she said as well - and the judge never swayed from it and gave him more than he asked for.

If you have a good Cafcass report then this should go in your favour.

Also as a LIP my partner was treated very well, he didnt get aggressive or force his points across, he spoke very much from the heart,calmly, talked about how everything he had proposed would benefit his daughter and walked out with an order he had only dreamed of.

Telling the judge your daughter wants closure is in no way a mistake, as they may lock the whole thing down now on the terms your daughter wants.

Lots of luck

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24 Apr 12 #326392 by Joe2020
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jonathancj wrote:

Is there a solicitor on the other side? Is so, it''s their obligation to prepare the bundle.


Are you saying only one side has to prepare a bundle?

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25 Apr 12 #326404 by halfadad
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Joe2020 wrote:

jonathancj wrote:

Is there a solicitor on the other side? Is so, it''s their obligation to prepare the bundle.


Are you saying only one side has to prepare a bundle?


I think so Joe - certainly did in my case. i remember ex solicitor sending it over to me.

I think that what happens is that both parties agree what goes in the bundle, so in your case, as neither of you will have solicitors you prepare the bundle, you send a copy over to your ex, who can jot amendments to stuff like the chronology and background summary (but not your spporting evidence), include info she wants in it and then she sends it back to you. If you are Ok with her amendments (but I dont think you can choose not to include her "evidence" or supporting info) you make 3 versions, 1 for you, 1 you send to court, and 1 to the ex.

If she retains her solicitor, you send your stuff to her solicitor (make sure you requet clearly to see the draft bundle), he then makes the bundle sends it to you, you jot amendments, send it back, and then he sends out the copies.

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25 Apr 12 #326410 by Joe2020
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Thanks HaD.

How did your hearing go in terms of the actual procedure?

The Judge blows the whistle,says a few words,you come in and cross examine,ex cross examines,tea and biscuits etc etc.

I''m interested in the minute by minute happenings and how long roughly each bit lasted.

Preparing for a simple Directions hearing seems a doddle compared to this one.

I''m still not sure the purpose of the final hearing and what you can gain that you couldn''t in a directions hearing.

If at directions for example the Judge thinks the child is too young for extra staying contact then at a final hearing nothing changes.
So maybe expect to come away with nothing also.

What is the evidence?Evidence of what for what?

Many Thanks.

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25 Apr 12 #326442 by Annie1000
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I also have a another question. Are copies of solicitors letters and replies included? I do not expect that other side will want to show letter I sent offering contact at a half way point which was ignored and the fact that the home were prepared to drive ex all the way to see us and his friends as he is missing us and his old life desperately but his parents would not allow it.In the end i worked out regular contact with his carers at half way point and grandparents solicitors sent several threatening letters as a result but in the end had to accept the situation. We have kept up contact but they keep moving the goal posts to cause the maximum of disruption in order to get what they want which is control.
Can I insist that letters are included or should I bring my own copies just in case?
Thanks again.

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25 Apr 12 #326526 by Joe2020
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Annie go check I''ve sent you a PM.
Its a link to a very useful website.

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