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CSA Evidence... I can''t believe it..

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24 Sep 12 #357714 by redwine47
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Csa tells me today that they will be paying out based on stbxs evidence. His evidence is he has child on xyz + more dates (untrue) & has sent a signed statement from my child stating he is with his dad on xyz + dates.

My evidence : is list of dates he''s supposed to have child & actual dates he''s got child which is 45 days per year at least 20 of these he leaves with others.

Anyway was shocked about csa receiving statement from my child (13 year old) so asked my child, who then tells me his dad demanded he signed a typed statement of dates, etc child said he did not want too sign &told dad 4 times as wasn''t sure what he was signing & didn''t think he was with dad on dates specified. Child said father got annoyed & put pen in his hand & told him loudly to sign now!!

Question 1....Is this not bullying abusive behaviour from dad to my son, surely this is wrong, I''m worried about my child.?

Question 2... How can csa use such a forced statement to decide maintenance.?

Ps We left this man due to abusive behaviour & he''s still getting away with this .again... I''m at the end of me tether

Help!

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24 Sep 12 #357719 by sexysadie
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Extraordinary. No court would accept a statement signed by a thirteen year old under those circumstances, so why should the CSA? I would appeal, and complain.

Best wishes,
Sadie

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24 Sep 12 #357722 by K1lk
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Hello have you got a court access order to determine how many days your ex sees your child ?
i think you should report this to the CSA as being he was under duress when he signed the statement . these are under hand tactics . im in the same sort of boat . my ex wife is demanding more money from me above the 20% so she is using the tactics of stopping my boys from seeing me . she recieved a letter from my solicitor to say nothing is outstanding and to start access again . now she is saying she wants to see my wage slip then she will let my boys see me . i no it cost money to do these things but its better in the long run as you dont get your ex pulling these stunts

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24 Sep 12 #357730 by WYSPECIAL
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redwine47 wrote:

My evidence : is list of dates he''s supposed to have child & actual dates he''s got child which is 45 days per year at least 20 of these he leaves with others.

Question 1....Is this not bullying abusive behaviour from dad to my son, surely this is wrong, I''m worried about my child.?

Question 2... How can csa use such a forced statement to decide maintenance.?

Ps We left this man due to abusive behaviour & he''s still getting away with this .again... I''m at the end of me tether

Help!


When you say they are "paying out" what do you mean? Are they now saying you have been overpaid and have to repay it or has there been a re-assessment?

Yes it does sound like bullying abusuve behaviour but in fairness you have only heard one side of the story. The evidence of a 13 year old which you are also stating should be discounted by others.

Does your ex have a contact order and if so what does it state?

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24 Sep 12 #357737 by redwine47
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Thanks for replies... No court orders contact & cm was agreed privately but then he decided to stop paying cm. & reducing contact .... so solicitor advised to use csa as ex unreliable so put in application to csa.

They have assessed amount to pay based on days stbx has child :which he states 100 + days (45 if lucky) +child''s statement . If you see previous posts he''s left child back early from contact unannounced, left with strangers etc list goes on..

I m not sure what you mean re childs evidence & one side of story.... I''m sure my child should not have been involved in signing statements from anyone!

Can''t believe tactics an stbx wld go to!

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25 Sep 12 #357758 by WYSPECIAL
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In that case I would write and complain pointing out that there is no established pattern of contact or court order in place and that overnight stays are less than 52 per year. Co,py in CEO and your MP. if it is a change of circumstances review they have carried out ensure you appeal the new assessment within one month

Sorry you''re right the evidence of a 13 year old shouldn''t come into it I was just pointing out that his version of events may be exagerated, or passed off by his father as exagerated, if you bring it up with him.

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25 Sep 12 #357767 by sexysadie
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Even if he signed it willingly it shouldn''t count for anything. He is thirteen. When the police take statements from children of this age they spend a lot of time checking that they know the difference between truth and untruth. And presumably it wasn''t witnessed, either. I can''t believe that the CSA took it seriously.

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Sadie

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