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Politician urges dads to write to their MPs....

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09 May 12 #329477 by somuch2know2
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... and demand equal rights.

In my persuit to change the world (or atleast that of divorce) I came across this. Its time to stand up and be counted. Change will not happen over-night, and it will not happen by simply ranting to others.

Taken from brightonmanplan.wordpress.com/2012/01/06...demand-equal-rights/

"Divorced dads are being urged to write to their MPs and demand an equal right to be part of their children’s lives.

According to an article in the Daily Telegraph, key government figures are preparing their response to the Norgrove Report into family law reform which dropped a plan to enshrine equal access rights for mums and dads in law.

Nick Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister, and Iain Duncan Smith, the Welfare Secretary, are said to support the plans to put courts under a legal duty to ensure that both fathers and mothers are given access to children in divorce settlements.

Tim Loughton, the children’s minister, said: “We must do everything we can to improve the system so that it gives children the best chance of growing up under the guidance of two loving parents.

“The culture has shifted away from the traditional view that mothers are primarily responsible for the care of children. Increasingly society recognises the valuable and distinct role of both parents.

“We are looking closely at all the options for promoting shared parenting through possible legislative and non-legislative means.”

The Coalition is expected to announce the plans as part of its official response to the Norgrove report by the end of this month.

Meanwhile, a backbench bill to bolster a child’s right to “grow up knowing and having access to and contact with both parents involved” will be given a second reading later this month.

The bill is sponsored by the Tory MP for Dover, Charlie Elphicke, who is urging Dads to write to their MPs and demand law change. He said:

“Now is the time to change the law and give our kids the best chances in life. The Government is looking at whether to give children the right to know their fathers.

“Fathers should act now by writing to their local MP and Ministers about their experiences and why the law needs to be changed. Child welfare is best served by a relationship with both parents.

“Anti-dad sociologists and weak-kneed judges have undermined the welfare of our children for too long.”

You can write to MP today quickly and simply online by visiting the Write To Them website today.

www.writetothem.com/

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09 May 12 #329494 by rubytuesday
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The bill mentioned in this blog (which dates back to January this year) was the private member''s bill; Children (Access to parents) Bill 2010-2012. Unfortunately, but not entirely unexpected, the bill failed to progress past a First Reading (the Second reading was delayed a number of times), and as the Bill failed to complete its passage through Parliament before the end of the session. This means the Bill will make no further progress.

Today''s Queen''s Speech which fell so short of the Tory''s pre-election promises on shared parenting, simply stated that "My Government will propose measures to improve provision for disabled children and children with special educational needs. New arrangements will be proposed to support children involved in family law cases, reform court processes for children in care and strengthen the role of the Children’s Commissioner.
Measures will be proposed to make parental leave more flexible so both parents may share parenting responsibilities and balance work and family commitments. [Children and Families Bill]" - the emphasis being on assisting those parents who are still together, rather than actually helping those parents who are no longer together. Divorced dads are (apparently) to get "enhanced" rights to see their children, "if it is safe to do" - implying that fathers are a risk to their children.

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09 May 12 #329496 by Fiona
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Of course that article was written in January and is a tad out of date. In February the Government responded to the FJR stating that there should be a legislative statement of the importance of children having an ongoing relationship with both their parents after family separation, where that is safe, and in the child''s best interests. It was also said that any change of legislation should avoid the "pitfalls" of a presumption that shared care or meaningful relationship is about equal division of time.


Since then a working group of Ministers has been established to develop proposals for legislative change, which will be brought forward for wider debate and consultation later this year.

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09 May 12 #329523 by somuch2know2
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Thanks for the update on this. I had no idea it was even in the news. There was more emphasis on the Eurozone and banker bonuses than the contact rights of fathers.

Does anyone know key MPs which are pushing for advancement of this? Every other law in the UK has a ''innocent until proven guilty'' view with exception to family law.

This is something I now feel quite passionate about, even though it looks as if my situation has resolved before the first court date.

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09 May 12 #329530 by Fiona
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I''m not sure what you mean. There''s a presumption of innocence until found guilty, but that doesn''t mean allegations can always be ignored by the Courts until they are proven. Sometimes allegations need to be treated as though they might be true whilst investigations are carried out. For example a suspect charged with a crime might be released on bail, conditions attached to bail or bail refused pending trial.

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09 May 12 #329558 by Forseti
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somuch2know2 wrote:

Tim Loughton, the children’s minister, said: “We must do everything we can to improve the system so that it gives children the best chance of growing up under the guidance of two loving parents".


So why did he appoint a working group composed almost entirely of well-known opponents of equal parenting with no representation at all from mainstream fathers'' groups?

As Ruby points out, today''s announcement includes the weasel words "where it is safe and in the best interests of the child" - always a clear indication that the author does not consider it safe or in the best interests of the child. To these people an application for contact by a father is a threat to the mother which needs to be neutralised, usually by removal of the father.

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09 May 12 #329559 by rubytuesday
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So why did he appoint a working group composed almost entirely of well-known opponents of equal parenting with no representation at all from mainstream fathers'' groups?



Because to engage with fathers'' groups that aren''t government funded, unlike some, would mean having to listen to a point of view that doesn''t fit in with the Govt''s own ;)

This working group''s proposals are a done deal really and those proposals will continue with more of the same, rather than actually coming up with anything meaningful.

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