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Legal aid to be stopped from Sep?

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06 Sep 12 #354249 by u6c00
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Elphie wrote:

What is all this about drugs test? Can one parent insist the other parent has a drug test now?! Surely, if there were accusations of drug or alcohol abuse and the children were potentially at risk then there would be a caffcass report done as part of the court process and they would see evidence of this? and / or reports to social services?

As for physiological testing....if the mental illness was so severe that it possibly endangered contact with the child, then that person would be able to get a referral via their ie, on the nhs? As such a mental illness would be having a negative impact on other areas of their life.....no? Am I missing something? If a gp didn''t think a referral was necessary (ie, maliscious accusation) then they could write a letter to the effect....?


In my case both parties alleged drug usage. I came home from work one day and she was so doped up with a friend she couldn''t finish a sentence without her friend helping. My son was in the house at the time. I screamed at her the next day, never been so angry in my life. I wish in hindsight I''d called the police when I got home. She promised me that she would never do it again. She knew that we were separating and so I don''t believe she would have been stupid enough to continue using drugs.

She in turn accused me of lots of drug usage, and adds new ones periodically. Latest was cocaine but before that cannabis and amphetamines. She also alleges alcohol abuse.

We both relayed the details to CAFCASS in their safeguarding checks and they recommended hair strand testing on the basis that unsubstantiated allegations were made by both parties. The court then ordered it.

I couldn''t afford to pay for it and made an application for legal aid. They took 3 months to return a no. I''m reapplying. It hasn''t been carried out still because I can''t afford £900 or so for it.

I''m reaching the point where I think it''s best to say I will not pursue my drug allegations any further (we''re 9 months on from the last time I know she took drugs so even if a positive result was returned it would be of limited relevance). If she wants to continue for me to be tested she can do but at her own cost.

In essence though, allegations are enough for the court to order testing and parents may not be able to afford for it to be done. Don''t know what the provision will be in this case.

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06 Sep 12 #354309 by carer
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Hi Joe2020,

Not all mothers try to stop contact to try to ''get back'' at the Ex. My child is disabled and my Ex couldnt cope with the medical side of things due to having Aspergers - if I didnt have Legal Aid I would have had to self-rep - which I would have found extremely difficult - so please dont put us all in the same boat - there can be genuine reasons for not wanting long periods of contact and if the childs safety is an issue then that should be the priority.

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06 Sep 12 #354325 by Joe2020
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Hi Joe2020,

Not all mothers try to stop contact to try to ''get back'' at the Ex.


Obviously.

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07 Sep 12 #354510 by khan72
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My hair strand test for cannabis, cocaine, amphetamines and meta amphetamines cost £366 in total. I can PM the company which was used.
Should also ask the courts to do the following
"If my drugs test is positive, I pay. If its negative, you pay."
See how many people start making allegations...

I have added this to my post in money saving tips...

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07 Sep 12 #354512 by ffc1991
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That''s exactly what I would say should happen aswell Khan. However if it comes down to the court making the false accuser say the Mum for example, surely the argument once again of fining the Mum or even dad if the RP isn''t in the childs best intersts? Just back to square 1 with the courts not enforcing stuff :/.

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07 Sep 12 #354513 by khan72
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Then write to the President of the Family Division. I have. He does reply. Sir Nicholas Wall. The more fathers who write to him, the more he will work towards changing the Directions.
Also write to your MP. Simon Hughes paid more than lip service to me. The fact is, rather than whine here, I whine to them :)
Judges are now seriously losing patience with RPs who make life difficult. I am pleased to say, the "sympathy" is dying off. Female Judges now openly shout at RPs. I know because I was grinning in the court room when a judge had a real go at my ex for "wasting court time".

*steps on to soap-box*
Enough is enough.
This abuse needs to be stamped out.
*steps off soap-box*

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07 Sep 12 #354516 by dukey
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Joe

Are you hoping to become the king of the one word reply, how about you try and post something helpful even supportive, not sarcastic or argumentative, just for a change.

Wikvorce exists to help support and help its members, not judge or put down with puerile comments.

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