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29 Jul 12 #345902 by aboy
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The campaign to stop me being with my boys continues. I have alternate weekend overnight contact and mid week tea time as per court order. I was looking forward to the school holidays so much since last year when the court orders were made at the end of a contested hearing - the court order specifically reads - "During the school summer holidays such additional day visiting contact as may be agreed from 11 am until 6 pm".

When I approached her she ignored my texts. I got a letter from her solicitor that this was not going to happen because I cannot look after my sons (been in contact for 3 years, and admirably cared for my sons, since the eldest was 1 years old and the youngest just 7 weeks old - now they have just turned 4 and 5 years old), that there is still too much acrmony between us which is not good for the children!

This is just a continuation of her campaign to punish me and inadvertently our children - I was so looking forward to the summer months where I could have more time with my sons. How can this be? Does the court order not state it clearly ? In hindsight what does ''as maybe agreed'' bit mean - I felt at the time that the judge had given his clear order for the summer holiday additional contact.

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29 Jul 12 #345909 by happyagain
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The judge clearly intended this to happen but unfortunately included the term ''by agreement''. This was discussed in another thread a week ago as the power is effectively handed to the PWC to give the agreement.
Of course this is unacceptable and probably not what the judge intended. I would suggest you return this to court with a request for specific times and dates mentioned although you may have to forego additional contact his year:(

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29 Jul 12 #345917 by aboy
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I had a feeling that would be the case. All the contact I ever have had with my sons is by court order. Never agrees to any additional contact, be it birthdays, special occassions, just the odd extra contact for a couple of hours to share some happy times with my sons, or just plain when I am missing them it hurts!

Should have asked the judge last year to make it clearer but you can''t tell what it means at the time.

Never mind, gonna keep fighting B)

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29 Jul 12 #345935 by khan72
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Be very clear in Consent Orders. Be very explicit. Never be affraid of asking a judge for what you want. Whats the worst that can happen? "No.". On the flip side, you can get a "Yes".

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29 Jul 12 #345939 by aboy
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Indeed - but the problem with judges are that once its ''no'' then it''s always ''no'' !

But will have to sort this out - back to courts''

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29 Jul 12 #345951 by disneybunny
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You could try going for a set number of extra days in the holidays say 3 extra to start with then arrange the dates later.

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29 Jul 12 #345953 by aboy
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Thanks for the suggestions. Problem is that I am now completely aware that the ex is simply never going to negotiate additionally contact. There is history of her never allowing me contact until and unless I obtained the court orders. There is a compete refusal to consider any proposal and dismisses all suggestions. The aim is simply to block, and not allow anything more than the prescribed contact. Getting exact times and dates will be restrictive for her and she will argue against that too. I am facing extreme belligerence and as the father, the NRP, the bloke, the ''ex'', the mindset is never to allow me any discretion - so will have to reaply to court - will do this carefully and have plenty of time till next summer! But I think considering apextra contact and escalate the current amount would be required too. I''m never going to give up - no matter how many obstacles I face I''m simply not going to give up - :huh:

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