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23 Aug 12 #351302 by Elphie
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Shi tong - personally, I think you need to concentrate on the important issues. Have you seen caffcass yet? Coz if you go in ranting about dirty nails and not reading, then your more serious points of not sleeping and eating might go unheard.
How long are they with their mum for? A week at most, I''m thinking from what you say? So, if they don''t read for a week then that really isn''t going to hurt them. And I''m saying that as a teacher. They read with you, it doesn''t matter that they don''t read with their mum.
Ditto with the finger nails and being "filthy". They ain''t gonna get ill from a few days without a bath, and before long they will be old enough to see to their own hygiene needs.
As for not eating and sleeping, how do you know? You are relying on their word. Maybe complaints of hunger are just in the moment, they are hungry coz they had their last meal with her earlier than you would expect. Or maybe they play her up more than you and refused to eat what she served. Did your ex not feed them while you were together?

Yes, you have to do all their primary care needs, welcome to the world of being primary carer. It isn''t all about the quality time and having fun, it''s about seeing to their needs, helping with homework and disciplining when they need it. We live in hope that they will look back and appreciate it when they are older. But you can''t force the the other parent to do the menial every day stuff, but that doesn''t make them undeserving of having their children.

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23 Aug 12 #351474 by ffc1991
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Shi tong - personally, I think you need to concentrate on the important issues. Have you seen caffcass yet? Coz if you go in ranting about dirty nails and not reading, then your more serious points of not sleeping and eating might go unheard.
How long are they with their mum for? A week at most, I''m thinking from what you say? So, if they don''t read for a week then that really isn''t going to hurt them. And I''m saying that as a teacher. They read with you, it doesn''t matter that they don''t read with their mum.
Ditto with the finger nails and being "filthy". They ain''t gonna get ill from a few days without a bath, and before long they will be old enough to see to their own hygiene needs.
As for not eating and sleeping, how do you know? You are relying on their word. Maybe complaints of hunger are just in the moment, they are hungry coz they had their last meal with her earlier than you would expect. Or maybe they play her up more than you and refused to eat what she served. Did your ex not feed them while you were together?

Yes, you have to do all their primary care needs, welcome to the world of being primary carer. It isn''t all about the quality time and having fun, it''s about seeing to their needs, helping with homework and disciplining when they need it. We live in hope that they will look back and appreciate it when they are older. But you can''t force the the other parent to do the menial every day stuff, but that doesn''t make them undeserving of having their children.


Have to disagree with you on so many points here. Reading I can agree with 1 week of not reading won''t hurt unless it''s a constant thing that she sees them weekly and they don''t read or do work or anything. If that''s there learning being disrupted personally I would say that it was an issue.

Its also not the NRP who just gets to have the fun and play time. Whilst the children are in that parents care its 100% there responsibilty to do the menial every day stuff as you put it. Especially if the children aren''t old enough themselves to do it. If the childen are filthy and not being washed in days as far as im concerned that''s neglecting those childs needs.

You also say relying on there word, In a sense yes that''s entirely what he''s doing but if he was to just mearly ignore his children''s claims that would be pretty irresponsible. I would also go as far as saying if the children aren''t being cleaned in days, that the childrens claims of not being fed properly would be believable. Yes I agree that they maybe of been fed earlier or kicked up a fuss. But he''s got to listen to his children concerns and make a judgment call.

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24 Aug 12 #351543 by ozzywiz
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Totally agree with FFC, everytyhing should be monitored cause its childrens lives we dealing with. However my advise is to choose your arguments wisely and prioritise what really matters cause the important satuff will get burried if loads of other issues are raised. Also keep CAFCASS on your side and make an enimy of them.

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24 Aug 12 #351550 by rugby333
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The problem with CAFCASS is that they are incompetent: absolutely and totally useless. Indeed rarely have I encountered such mind numbingly boring right-on, hopeless people. The danger of CAFCASS is that they appointed by the court and therefore have the ears of the court.

I have also caused, and witnessed, CAFCASS officers being crucified in court for their utter stupidity. CAFCASS officers are my pet hate because they are so stupid yet wield such power in peoples lives.

The core problem is that CAFCASS will side with the path of least resistance, which is the resident parent. Consequently if you are an NRP, CAFCASS is bad news.

It is therefore unnecessary to give an RP advice relating to CAFCASS.

To an NRP, my advice would be to behave impeccably at all times when the CAFCASS officer is present and, if you can, have a witness present.

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24 Aug 12 #351554 by dukey
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Rugby

Your posting from your own personal opinion which is worse than useless to most, your very biased and may have had a very hard time, you cannot however condem the entire system based on your opinion and experience.

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24 Aug 12 #351557 by rugby333
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Dukey,

Lord Justice Wall stated in November 2010 that the biggest problem in contact law was a lack of judicial continuity.

I have experienced cases that over 5 years have had 10 different judges. Each judge has approached the case as though it were new: they have not had the personal insult of their own orders being broken.

I have had appeal cases where 3 Lord Justices have insisted on judicial continuity.

For you to argue citing the appeal process as a resolution to lack of judicial continuity is demeaning to yourself and kind of sad: it means no one can take your advice as serious.

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24 Aug 12 #351558 by dukey
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Correct me if I''m wrong here, you condem the whole system as hopeless but then quote a high court judge in support?.

I will take all you say with 50 tons of salt, if you know even the basics you will know that deliberations are just that, they are not statute,

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