Both my ex and myself are bikers. Our children are alot older than your son.
When riding pillion, they were told in no uncertain terms, XYZ. They also have the appropriate wear.
They only legal requirement is a helmet and they can reach the foot pegs.....sorry.
So long as he rides within the parameters of the law whilst your son is on the back, it should be ok. However that is something you will have to negotiate with your ex.
the rider must have a full licence for that class of motor cycle;
a motor bike must be equipped with suitable supports or rests for the feet of the pillion passenger;
pillion passengers must be capable of sitting astride a proper seat securely fixed to the motorcycle;
a pillion passenger must wear a suitably constructed safety helmet;
and the decision to carry a passenger remains with the rider, who is legally responsible for ensuring that the passenger is safely supported.
Although there is currently no minimum legal age for a person to ride pillion, it is strongly advised that they have parental consent, wear a properly fitting and specially designed helmet and are able to reach the foot rests.
Ironic isn''t it of all the stupid health and safety laws a kid can ride pillion.
I agree with you if there is an accident they are at a much greater risk than in a car.
I also came up against this problem. My ex bought a bike shortly after separation and expected our ten year old to ride pillion. He didn''t warn me or even my son, just turned up to collect him from an activity one day with the bike. I was horrified and even considered taking out a prohibited steps order but in the end I just spoke to my children about safety (so effectively that the elder one never agreed to go on the bike) and left it at that.
To give him his due, not only did my ex make sure our son was properly dressed (always a helmet and also sometimes his old leathers, though they were way too big) but he also spent time riding around a car park with him until my son felt confident to go on the road. My ex hadn''t ridden for years but he was a very experienced rider and had ridden a lot with a previous girlfriend pillion so he did know what he was doing. I think he was also pretty careful when he had our son on the back.
The problem, though, is not how careful the rider is, but other drivers, and I used to worry about this all the time. In fact what has now happened is that my ex himself got too scared by the whole thing once he''d got over the initial thrill and has now got rid of the bike.
As others have said, you probably can''t do anything much about it, except talk to your son yourself about safety and hope that your ex is really careful.
The fact that you have had to deal with the loss of a child is just awful - and to say I offer my condolences really does not fulfill what I am trying clumsily to say so forgive me if I have not got it right.
And of course when that has happened there is a loss of the ''it probably won''t happen to us'' complacency that others may have.
My ex also did this with motorbike even when still living with us - and he just ignored my concerns.
I think one of the worst things about a marriage and family break up is a loss whereby your best interests and fears for your children are just ignored - and that is so selfish and arrogant of the other party (father).
I expect the others are right - that if your son is equipped you may not be able to stop it.
But I would express your fears clearly - backed up with statistics - to make sure the onus of the responsibilty sits on ex''s shoulders - and yet this still does not help you does it. But I wanted to tell you I thought your fears were justified and I understood them, even if I could not help.
I also think - this gives the kids a taste of the fun of motorbikes (and of course they are fun) and then as a teenager your son may want one, and therefore as Mum''s we will never have peace of mind.
I wish I could give more help/advice/wise words
We do live in a strange country, kids cannot throw snow balls in school nor can they play concurs, but they can ride on a machine with a power to weight ratio that would embarrass a formula 1 car costing a million quid.
Personally i love motorbikes, would i put a child on the back of one, well yes providing no cars were on the road, but that will never happen.
Its not illegal as others have said, all you can do is make sure he fully understands your concerns, if he insists taking the child on the bike maybe agree where and when they will ride, there is a ton of protective clothing these days, leathers come with armored plates, derry boots are a must and the best helmet he can afford, don`t buy a second hand helmet though, the rest ok but not the helmet.
You will worry of course you will your the mother, for what its worth guys who ride pay way for attention to the road than car drivers, a guy with his kid on the back will be like a hawk on speed.
I couldn''t give a monkeys what any biker on here says about it''s safe because I''m careful.
At the end of the day it''s nothing to do with you.You have no power over the car drivers actions.
Car pulls out hits you in the side bang multiple injuries it''s all over.There''s no protection for the bike whatsoever.
What''s even worse on here most people are talking about the kids leathers being an afterthought.I''ve fallen off a pushbike and scraped all me legs.
It''s common sense kids shouldn''t be on motorbikes end of.
I''m right again you can''t argue against my logic.FACT!
All the best