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12 Jul 12 #342817 by JamesLondon
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I am faced with the school summer holidays and yet again my ex wife has decided that the children will go to France again for the whole summer and be with her parents whilst she stays behind to work in the UK.

This means that none of my family who see the children (I do not) will not get to spend any time with them for a second summer running.

I informed her last year when she did the same thing that she needed my consent for her parents to remove the children from the UK but I found out too late, when they were already in France and did not want to involve solicitors or the police if it meant the children would witness proceedings.

Now she has informed me that the children will once again be going from July 26th through to the end of August and has said that she does not need my consent for her parents to remove the children.

What do I do here? As far as I understood it , as she has a residence order she can remove the children herself but that it is not possible for her parents to be the ones who do so whilst she remains in the UK?

What is the best way of handling this with her? Do I need to contact her solicitors or if I have evidence that a criminal act is going to happen can I ask the police to speak to her in order to prevent it?

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12 Jul 12 #342818 by jslgb
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Even with a residence order does she not have to have your permission if its for longer than a month?

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12 Jul 12 #342826 by autumn9
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You state their is a Residency Order in her favour. Is there a Contact Order?

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12 Jul 12 #342838 by JamesLondon
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I have no contact with my children. No phone calls and no supervised or unsupervised contact. This is laid out in a court order.

Does that mean I can no longer determine where the children spend their holidays if they are not to be accompanied by their mother?

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12 Jul 12 #342844 by jslgb
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I imagine it would certainly have an effect, How old are your children? Is there any reason for no contact?

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12 Jul 12 #342847 by JamesLondon
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My children are 6 and 2. I have no contact as I failed to agree with the CAFCASS recommendation that I only see the children under supervision.

The judge decided that it is in the children''s best interests to have no contact with me. That is something that I accept and go along with but you think that means that I also lose any Parental responsibility?

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12 Jul 12 #342848 by jslgb
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I wouldnt know to be honest. It shouldnt but if you have refused supervised contact that might be interpreted as ''abandoning'' your children. This is just my business mind you, i dont have any legal experience!!

Can i ask why you refused supervised contact? This is normally suggested when there is an allegation made and the only way to progress with contact is to play along and show there isnt a problem.

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