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03 Jul 09 #128566 by muchtoomuch
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Please can anyone give me an a rough guide to how much a barrister and sols charge for a scheduled 2 hour hearing?

Also what a sols would charge for a 10 min heaaring?

Also a barrister and sols to attend a full day hearing ?

I know they all have different rates but a rough idea what others have been charged would be appriciated as i think ive paid way over the top!

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03 Jul 09 #128569 by Fiona
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Barristers don't charge an hourly rate and their fee depends on the complexity of the matter, the amount of pre-reading involved and the seniority of counsel. As a rough idea one price quoted for Chambers in London is £750 to £2,000 for a hearing listed to last up to half-a-day.

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03 Jul 09 #128594 by muchtoomuch
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Thanks fiano

Reason i asked is i was at court friday last week and i have to pay 3.700k court cost to my sbex late mothers barrister/sols despite the fact that they had no one official representing her estate( sbex main benificiary). so should not of happened.My barrister was useless and never fighted my case but thats another story and complicated. Its was for cost since feb 29th .There was a court date march where a barrister plus sols attended then a Consent Order drawn ( she was alive then)then a scheduled 2 hour hearing friday with barister and sols which went over that time.

I actually thought that was quite low considering what my sols charge ,so im not questioning that figure, its just made me question my own legal charges as i had to pay 3.5k upfront for the fri hearins scheduled for 2 hours plus then my sols never came and put in a understudy that knew nothing about the case.Also he charged me 3k in march upfront for a scheduled 10 min hearing where i had no barrister and 3k roughly fo work in between etc. so it seems alot more than the other sols fees.

Anyone shed some light ?

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23 Jul 09 #133476 by .Charles
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There is not enough information to go on here I'm afraid. Barristers do charge an hourly rate despite what is said above. It is normal to agree a fee the barrister's clerk prior to the hearing/conference etc based on the number of expected hours required.

In relation to a solicitor dealing with a hearing without a barrister - it could easily cost £3k for work upto and including a hearing but you appear to suggest that it was £3k for the 10 minute hearing and another £3k prior to the hearing. That does seem like a lot but it's not clear what issues were involved or what hourly rate your solicitor is charging.

In relation to your solicitor sending an assistant with counsel, this is quite normal as it is always advisable to have somebody taking notes in case the case goes wrong or if the barrister requires assistance and/or a go-between with the officer. If, however, the assistant was a secretary who was taking notes only you should question his/her hourly rate and whether you agreed to pay for these services. Anything above £70 + VAT per hour for note taking is excessive.

Another thing that may be confusing is the basis upon which the costs order was made. If it was limited to certain work in a certain period this may be why the costs seem low. There are ocasions where costs are awarded for work that is 'wasted' due to the conduct of one party. This means that the order covers only certain elements within a specificed period rather than all of the work carried out during that period.

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23 Jul 09 #133568 by Fiona
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Barristers do charge an hourly rate despite what is said above. It is normal to agree a fee the barrister's clerk prior to the hearing/conference etc ­base­d on the number of expected hours required.

Ok. What I meant was barristers don't charge an hourly rate in the same way most solicitors do. There tends to be a fixed fee up front for a hearing or half day depending on the complexity of the matter, the amount of pre-reading involved and the seniority of counsel or in some cases, the fee may depend on how long it takes the barrister to do the work. For example according to this earlier post the going rate for an FDA in a normal money case was £350 - £500 + VAT.

I actually thought that was quite low considering what my sols charge

Because barristers tend to charge a set rate they can work out being less expensive than a solicitor.

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24 Jul 09 #133587 by muchtoomuch
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To be honest i dont know what ive been paying for and for what and who.

I have never had a breakdown despite asking for itemised bills.
The 10 min hearing was regarding whether Consent Orders were co joined or not as i was saying i would not of handed our holiday home over to his mothers trust without being paid a settlement.

While sbex and his mother were trying to get his mothers signed seperate saying they are seperate orders.

I was charged upfront 3k for that court day.with only my sols attendance.

Then as it went back to court for a sceduled 2.5hr hearing i had to pay 3.5k few days before .

There was nothing much done in between the two ,other than my barrister drawing up a schedule arguements which was very good but he never used hardly any of it he was useless.

Hence his mothers estate won costs.

My sols charges £217 an hr plus vat.

Thx for replies x

DO I JUST LEAVE IT ?

Or what can i do now?

Is it too late to ask for nearly 3 years of bills ?

Its just when Judge looked at cost orders he even agreed mine seemed really high and he said thats something i shouls take up with sols/barrister.

My whole thing has cost me over 40k i never even had an fdr never lone a fh.??????

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24 Jul 09 #133588 by Zara2009
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Hi

You really need to confront your solicitor and ask these questions.

It would all depend on the terms that you employed them on.

Whatever you do, fight your corner, fight for everything.

Dont let them get away with anyting. If you are not happy, tell them

dont pay for anything you have not agreed to, or are willing to pay for

zara
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