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The first thing we do, let''s kill all the lawyers

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I thought I would share this interesting blog on McKenzie Friends, written by a family law solicitor -

The first thing we do, let''s kill all the lawyers

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07 Jun 12 #335497 by dukey
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Eight hearings and granted right of audience every time? I find that quite hard to believe,that said I do know judges will on occasion allow a very brief comment for clarification, cross examination I don''t know off without right of audience which as far as I know only happens with lawyer MF''s.

Could this become a problem, once legal aid ends I''m sure it will, would it attract those who accredit themselves with some dodgy online resource oh yes, there maybe trouble ahead as the song goes, even right now there is a high number of LIP''s often fairly clueless and that number will rocket once legal aid ends.

If your a judge now maybe a good time to think about retirement.

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07 Jun 12 #335506 by Forseti
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Perhaps those of us in the voluntary sector may be forced to consider retirement as well. We could be in for a bumpy ride.

I wonder to what extent lawyers have brought this upon themselves, as they cling to their outdated Spanish practices.

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07 Jun 12 #335507 by Emma8485
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I''ve had a look at the new regulations on funding and cant really make sense of them....

Does it mean that people wont automatically be entitled to legal aid if there are no DV or harm issues, even if theyre on IS ?

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07 Jun 12 #335576 by Fiona
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Of course the remark from Shakespeare''s Henry VI "The first thing we must do is kill all the lawyers" is often misunderstood as the plotters intention was to remove the guardians of independent thinking and cause chaos and tyranny so actually it is a compliment to lawyers . ;)

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08 Jun 12 #335702 by soulruler
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My experience when attending a hearing to make me bankrupt in district court where I was accompanied by my Mac who said NOTHING during the 10 minute hearing is that at the end the District Judge (who by the way was very distressed at having to adjudicate such an abusive claim) told my Mac that he was very impressed as my Mac was THE FIRST MacKensie Friend that he had ever had in his court room that had complied with practice Directions and said NOTHING.

My Mac,s response was that there was no need to say anything as I was capable of speaking for myself (he was right about that).

I do think that Judges are unnecessaily put under a ridiculous amount of pressure.

I think that there needs to be far more respect for legal teams but also where they are wrong they should be struck off and punished otherwize there will basically be no legal system very soon.

I am still attempting to get proper legal representation this time from a top criminal barristers set.

Self representation is a horrible experience for judges and litigants alike.

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08 Jun 12 #335707 by AbsentFather
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Sad news all round :)

I had a medical doctor tell me that as there are so many out of work legal professionals that I should try to get someone to take on my case "pro bono".

Does that ever happen?

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