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02 Aug 12 #346947 by Crumpled
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hi kazzabell i am so sorry you have found this out but it is best you know.If you google the signs for having an affair you will find his behaviour probably fits the pattern.
You are not to blame it is the typical adage of the grass being greener etc etc.
My husband blatantly lied through counselling (but was very good at it even had a very experienced counsellor sucked in and i think she was shocked by him) i think he was sitting through the sessions to help me....(in his mind)that tends to be the next bit the im not in love with you but i will always love you bit so be prepared for it............the only way to cope is by becoming hardened to him...this is not easy and there is no timescale i can offer you.........get some counselling for yourself on your own as well.............lots of love xx

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02 Aug 12 #346963 by Canuck425
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phone glued to him

That''s all I really needed to hear. Yes, there is someone else. I guarantee it.

Here is my stock advice to those starting out. There is a script they follow. You need to remember that most of it is garbage but they do believe it. My stbx''s affair also started during my illness so I know a bit about that as well.

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1. Get support. I talked to a LOT of people but I was very careful who I told what to. Most people were so ready to support me which was awesome but the ones that knew both of us really didn''t want to get into the details. I was very specific with the kind of support I needed from different individuals. From some I needed to have a laugh. From others I needed them to listen. From others still I needed their opinion. Others I needed them to feed me. etc. The key for me was to talk, talk, talk. I have probably talked to a hundred people that have been through something similar. Understanding that there is a script to these things was quite eye opening to me. Knowing that the leaver will deny, blame and justify helped me. Knowing that a lot of the garbage that comes out of their mouths not only is not true but has no basis in reality helped as well.

2. Get away. As soon as I was healthy enough I went away on a trip to the sun. Soon after that I went away again to visit family and childhood friends. This was very, very good. Just get away for a few days even. Get some space. I like long drives and have done a few solo trips with 6+ hour drives through the mountains. Getting away like that brings me back to my 20s and is very healing for me.

3. Don''t beg, it is as pathetic as it sounds. I had a few bad moments when I was begging her to reconsider. It was pathetic. When she was in the "fantasy bubble" as I like to call it there is no reason that will be considered. You have to realise at that moment, in their minds, everything is going to be amazing. They''ve never been this happy. Never. So let it go. The fantasy will wear off eventually and then you can see where you are.

4. Take care of you. This is the biggest one. Be kind and patient with yourself. Put yourself first. Really first. Not your kids, but you. It''s like on the airplane when they say put the oxygen mask on you first. You have to take care of you then you will be fit enough to take care of others in your life. This will take time and a lot of hard work. It''s worth it. Why? Because you''re worth it. You. Can you commit to taking care of you? This is a very new concept for so many people. Can you truly love yourself? Can you look into yourself and see a person of value? A person worthy of love?

5. Know that you''ll be more than ok. You''ll be awesome. Honest. The future is not yet written and you have a huge hand in it. The best path forward is making your life great.

Another interesting thing I learned is that the stories are not particularly unique. In fact, the more I talk to others that have been through this, the more the stories are all so sickeningly similar. Honestly, I have not truly moved on but I am doing ok. I have learned a ton about myself and the type of person I am. I have looked deeply into myself and started to understand my role in all of this. Why did I allow myself to be treated so poorly? How did the total breakdown in communication contribute to the environment? I think you move on, if that is even the right phrase, by doing the work on you. What was your role? Who are you and who do you want to be?

One more thing. Stop reading so many books on this subject. Get out and have more fun! This is your life and you get to choose what happens next! Commit to being awesome.

I have no doubt that I am going to come through this stronger. That is my 100% commitment to myself.

Take good care of you,

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02 Aug 12 #346980 by taff45
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Hi

Sorry to add what you probably don`t want to hear but I have to say what everyone has said here about an affair is so true. Until this morning I had been suspicious but I was in the same position as you - our situations are so similar. This morning I found proof positive that there is another woman and has been for some time.

I was convinced my husband wasn`t having an affair. However reading the signs here about phones and passwords etc, he did all those but when I questioned him he denied it. However I now have to face the facts, he is kidding himself, he thinks that because it isn`t physical, mostly texting and internet and occasionally meeting for a coffee to chat its not an affair. I can no longer avoid the fact there is another woman. For your sake I hope there isn`t but keep your mind open to the possibility.

My hear goes out to you. This is a horrible place to be. Be kind to yourself and hang on in there. Be strong and keep posting you will find so much support, help and advice here.

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02 Aug 12 #347020 by Kazzabell80
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Oh my god I am so lost.

He has admitted that there is someone else but that nothing has happened, only that she listens to him and they are friends. It is purely platonic apparently.

He left the FMH for some space, I have given him almost a month and he still doesn''t know what he wants. But in the meantime, he has been talking to her about us and how he feels.

He is never going to come home if there is someone else trying to tempt him away. I am so devastated.

I love him and I hate him at the same time.

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02 Aug 12 #347024 by Crumpled
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HI kazzabell you are so right you cannot fix things with three people in your marriage....will he agree to stop contacting this other woman?............and work with you at counselling?
Please prepare yourself for other revelations to come out this has an all too familiar ring about it........try and stay strong it is so difficult i know...lots of love

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02 Aug 12 #347028 by taff45
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So sorry to her this. You are in the same place as me. Mine also says its platonic,as I have said already, but he`s kidding himself. Its so hard because he has given up on our relationship and turned to someone else. Her husband has just left her so they have been supporting each other.I can so relate to your comment about loving and hating at the same time.

We have to get through this. For our sanity and our children, we are worth more than this. We have to find the strength to let go and move forward to a better life - I know this seems hard but we can do it, one step at time. Take care of yourself and take help from family and friends around you as much as you can.

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02 Aug 12 #347031 by wammcl
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How much more shi.e can i take? Apparently my stbx seems to think he''s God''s gift to the female race - have seen emails to someone else now - how much worse can it get............

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