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The wine drinking culture

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20 Aug 12 #350800 by dukey
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I don''t really see how this thread is at all useful, drinking too much is not gender specific, we will all know some people who drink to much, some often some now and again, some will be men others women.

What really matters is that excessive drinking is not good in terms of health behaviour family and of course a marriage, we all know this.

A doctor I know firmly believes excessive drinking is often more detrimental to ladies due to assimilation rates body mass and other stuff, other doctors even those he works with don''t accept this, but does it matter at the end of the day?.

Man or woman if you drink to excess and act poorly it''s bad for all concerned.

Personally while I''m on holiday I drink life a dehydrated fish who was forced to live in a sauner for a week, but if my missus said you were grumpy or rude, even worse then I would have real reason to worry, a change would be required on my part.Thankfully thus far the general consensus is I talk way to much if I over indulge, this I can live with.

Maybe we can all agree that drinking to excess male or female is bad for all concerned.

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20 Aug 12 #350805 by livinginhope
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The main thing that struck me about the OP is that I was an adult in the 70s and didn''t know any men who thought it was ok to go to the pub each night after work.I also know that my femail friends would definitely have considered that very unreasonable behaviour so it obviously wasn''t the norm then throught the Uk.I was living in a Northern area at the time so don''t know what Southerners were doing at the time;)
I agree excessive drinking by either sex doesn''t lead to harmonious relationships and it can also increase Depression and make us fat and poor, all good reasons not to overdo it.

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20 Aug 12 #350806 by eyes on horizon
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My OH drinks a glass of wine, and sometimes two, everynight. She doesnt drink it to excess often. but will sometimes partake if its a celebration..(does friday count??! JK)

anyway...she was brought up in a house of wine, ie its the family business, children drink it watered down at night with dinner in her family..its just he way its done. its not even viewed as well, alchohol really. You will find that this type of scenerio is common in most EU households as well in say, France, Spain Italy. What is different to her is that she wasnt ever told wine was BAD..therefore never wanted to overdo it. Whats the problem with people these days? Not being taught how to enjoy alchohol RESPONSIBLY!!

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20 Aug 12 #350815 by soulruler
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Dukey, what is wrong with you these days; all these funny jokes (am I right or wrong here?)

Anyhow, I want to ask a stupid question now, can I please be allowed at last to ask the magic fairy for the money to go on holiday so that I can follow your example and drink like a dehydrated fish for a week (actually make that a month or a year or for ever til the liver collapses)? Reasons:

a. I am bored with being locked up at home with no-where to go

b. I can always cite that Dukey from Wiki said it was a good idea - could be the next international wiki scandel!

Sorry, alcholic "humour" getting the better of me yet again.

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20 Aug 12 #350863 by not such a bad guy
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Wow!!! With the exception of one or two, I would never have believed that my OP and following posts would have been misread, mis-interpreted and also mis-expressed in so many different ways. So much so that I''d just like to again point out that it is entitled ''The wine drinking culture!'' and it would appear that it is clearly a sensitive issue.

I really do feel sorry for those who have been subject to alcoholism in general, domestic violence and other negative aspects that can result from the effects of alcohol and I do respect that a little hijack of the post here and there, may be a release of the heartache involved. Bringing back on point on this clearly sensitive issue, my concern is in regards to the growth in the consumption of wine within the home, and unfortunately the key participators are the ladies.

I was asked for the basis of this view, and I both expressed it and provided numerous links to the now documented, researched and expressed findings which show this trend.

Responsible drinkers need not have taken any offence to anything that I have written, however to be bluntly honest, I''m a little disappointed at the very defensive views expressed by some and they way which my wording has been manipulated to present a defensive view that really wasn''t necessary for those who enjoy drink in moderation. However each to their own. If I had expressed a view of alcopops and presented supporting stats, reviews and articles to the younger drinkers of our society, then perhaps I would have got the same response without acknowledgment of the topic issue.

I am merely presenting stats, views, reports and articles from numerous sources which support the point of discussion about ''the wine drinking culture''.

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20 Aug 12 #350865 by soulruler
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Well I agree that there is a wine drinking culture but this is a forum for divorce and the reasons and results of divorce.

So in that context I think that the responses are to be expected. So what if the UK is set to be the biggest wine drinker in Europe? So what if women drink more wine than men? Men drink more beer than woman and there is an alarming increase in the consumption of hard liquor by our youth (gone are the days when the young - in the 70-s could only afford to get piddled on the ocasional bottle of cider or a few cans of beer or lager).

I totally agree that the drinking culture in the UK is really out of control but picking on women for drinking wine? Do you think it would be more appropriate if they changed to beer as at least they would be supporting UK Breweries?

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21 Aug 12 #350877 by Forseti
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not such a bad guy wrote:

my concern is in regards to the growth in the consumption of wine within the home, and unfortunately the key participators are the ladies.


Oh dear, I don’t know about anyone else but that comes across to me as profoundly patronising and even misogynist. You are making no distinction between “ladies” who drink moderately and those who drink to excess; no wonder you have put some backs up.

Most of your links don’t work and you have still provided no citation for your original figures, which I believe you have misunderstood, an allegation you have not addressed. You haven’t proved your case. The Daily Mail is hardly a reliable source. You also haven’t explained why you started the thread in the first place or what you are trying to achieve. I think you are sh!t-stirring.

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