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Circumventing court order

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09 Sep 14 #444072 by lostdad
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I have a court order for child arrangements. In this it states that phone contact is to be with the absent parent (not to speak to partners). Have since found out that the STBX is passing on messages from her partner to the children. This to me is contact albeit indirectly. Am I right? Is this then contravening the court order? Or is this allowed?

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10 Sep 14 #444092 by MrsMathsisfun
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Sorry lostdad slightly confused by your post.

How is the stbx using partner to send messages?

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10 Sep 14 #444096 by lostdad
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Court order states only STBX is to have contact with kids during phone calls but she is giving the kids messages from her partner. Is that more clear I''m not sure??

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10 Sep 14 #444098 by rubytuesday
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What sort of messages? And is there a known issue with the partner? Are the messages upsetting or distressing the children in any way?

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10 Sep 14 #444099 by lostdad
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Messages that I''ve heard are conversational but I do not monitor the calls it''s just snippets I hear if children wander towards me whilst in the phone. Issues with him if any are not known as no checks were done by CAFCASS because of how STBX described their relationship. Children do not appear upset or distressed but STBX has used emotional measures to manipulate the children which was observed and noted by CAFCASS in their report only 4 months ago.

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10 Sep 14 #444105 by rubytuesday
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It sounds as though this is distressing you far more than it may be upsetting the children. How often does phone contact happen when the children are with you - and what is the exact wording of the order?

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10 Sep 14 #444107 by lostdad
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I will agree it does pain me to have it going on. In my defence I spent months being the nice guy and letting things happen even after I found out what was going on. It was only when I gave up and used the law that I found some respite.
Phone contact is every day. Exact wording is "During telephone contact the children shall speak only to the absent parent". I do consider having a conversation or commenting through STBX as breaking this condition.

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